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BTF ADMINISTRATOR - founder
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Hi my friends:

You know life throws some curves balls at times, some we really don't see that we can get through but we edge on and find in the end we got through it. Sometimes the curve balls seem to come your way one after the other and these are the toughest ones to deal with, it feels as though you can barely catch your breath before another slaps you right upside your head. You may find yourself maxed out but the damn things keep coming. "Roll with the punches" is a good saying during these times dont you think?

This is so hard to actually say to you, what I mean is there are many who may enjoy the knowledge of rough times for me and Gary as well but there are many more who deserve to know what it is going on with us, you are true and dear friends so really screw the rest.

As most of you know Gary and I have struggled getting me a Visa for the UK for a very long time.Ultimately we need a Visa so I can be here and a green card so he can be there freely able to travel back and forth "together" without having to be apart in different countries for months on end till we are allowed to travel again for 3-6 months and be together again. We are husband and wife so why is it so hard?  
Well simply put it is piriod!! We have yet to see either a Visa or green card with all our efforts. One of the major problems is Gary's back is broken so to speak. Two prolaps disk is no joke I can tell you now as I have seen it first hand sense 2005 with him and some of the agony he goes through. He is unable to work as he has always done sinse age 17 ( a very good carpenter) was his life job.  

We fell deeply in love in 2005 and all we aimed for is to be together yet our countries think because we are poor and have nothing that we are not eligible to do so.Our fight against this system has been endless and caused many tears from all the no no no no we get with each expensive application we have put in.This has tapped our funds to zero now.

I also have health issues that leave me quite frankly bed ridden at times. Some of you know about this. Yet we still and never will feel sorry for ourselves we just keep fighting to get our lives in order and rather spend our energy to do that then feel sorry for our mishaps.

Now we come to our HOPE when we found the ELG poker network that lets a person build a poker site and have a chance to build a buiness with it with lots of work and effort we poured our hearts and souls into making this work. Thankyou so much for many of you supported us with Gloss and stayed loyal till there was no way to continue on. It seemed right when Gloss was breaking even the problems all started and we watched as the ELG team pulled one problem after another on the site. 
These were serious problems such as no certificate in order, errors with CC cards not only from the states but all other countries , then there were cashout problems as well and as most of you know the issues were never ending. This went on for months and red flags and questions a rose over and over by you and with just cause and concern on your part.  

We understood those of you who stayed loyal playing endlessly on there pulling out in the end. We never put Gloss before you and you know who you are. We truely understood but it still cut deep as we watched all our hard work crumble on no fault of our own.  

The ELG team did the final straw with this merge thing and the last of you pulled out at that time. Now ELG wanted their money. Fair enough it was due but to be fair why would they charge full price when it was their own errors that caused so many to back out of that Gloss skin because all the errors on the ELG part?? 
 They at one point admitted this and said they would get back to Gary but never did and now are simply put"being real jerks." To me it was all a scam against Gary and he was told once he closes it down that they dibby out all his players to another skin. I know exactly what skin will likely get the players. This skin belongs to someone that works on the ELG team but they refuse to admit this in fact I was called a liar but I have proof in their words NOT mine that it is one of their own skins.

Simply put Gloss never had a chance and I truely beleave that even if we had paid the full amount they asked for for a non working site that it never ever would have gotten anybetter nor was it being fair at all by ELG to ask this. They know 100% it all stemmed from them and their site not working properly.

Most of you know me and know I am one to step up when it comes to people and doing whats right which is exactly what I did. I made a few post one on 
 http://www.apcwinteractive.org/forum/topics/a-question-about-elg-everleaf?xg_source=msg_com_forum&id=1994880:Topic:34786&page=1#comments

And the other on here http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/51/affiliates-rakeback/question-about-elg-everleaf-gaming-integrity-713651/

I did this so people with high hopes in the future can atleast have a heads up and not get let down and scammed like we did.In no way was the post listed above posted with malice or anger I am simply "looking out for others" as with all our research there was nothing to give us a fair warning, it needed to be done.

Bottom line is I have to fly back to the states and once again be without my husband. I have nowhere to go or funds to support myself...However we are on one last ditch effort in yet another court trial so that I can stay.Please keep us in your prayers..

We have lost our internet and phone so I can not be on as much. We are using someone elses internet that doesnt seem to work. 

Bottom line is this is a very low point for both of us in our lives and has worn us down more then words can say. ELG if they had been fair and not against from the start was our last hope to have a buiness thus not be on on the "NO" list where immagrations is concerned,, thats how important it was for us to make this work. 

I say to them that they should really look deeper into what harm and hopes they may be crushing for their own benifit. To climb the golden ladder is fine but to use others to get there is just not right and it always goes alot deeper then just what they can see. We worked so very Hard  (For them it turns out) so instead of slapping us and blaming us just take what you got from it and dont turn and point fingers where you shouldnt.It is not right to slap someone any harder then you already did ELG when you know beyond a doubt it was errors on your part that caused the problems.

As for me I will continue to roll with the punches GOD NEVER GIVES US MORE THEN WE CAN TAKE and I have that faith and some wonderful friends to help me through this. I am blessed.This too shall pass.
Hugs Z





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BTF ADMINISTRATOR - admin
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gf i am here for u, please always remember that.  You and gary will come thru these trials and life bumps.  I believe!  God Bless u2

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BTF ADMINISTRATOR - admin
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To my dearest April and Gary,
  You two people are without a doubt true friends who have become part of my heart. I have always and will always pray for the best for you guys. When times are bad..just remember..there is only way way up from down and that is up. Never stop fighting, I know its hard to go on in the worst of times because I have had first hand experience.
I so wish I had enough money to get you what you guys need. That goes for all of BTF. I've never wanted to win the lottery, I am not a materialistic person, but, I am going to buy a lottery ticket for tomorrows lottery so i can help all my BTF family. I would give Gary and April the moneys they need to get their lives in order, I would give Jo enough money to quit that stinking job. I would give Rick enough money to move south. I would give Jenks enough to get his daughter and grandbaby settled and on and on and on i would go. But the main point is, WE DONT LOVE YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE OR DONT HAVE..WE LOVE YOU GUYS BECAUSE YOUR YOU, GARY AND APRIL!!!!! So keep your heads up..you are never alone as long as we are here..together.heart
 


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BTF ADMINISTRATOR - moderator
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i want get to mushy since im not good at that but keep digging it will all work out as long as you never give up and as pat said i wish i was rich so i could help people here more but since im not rich all i can hope to do is make u smile and laugh from time to time talk to u soon will

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Thankyou all for your response it means so much to me and this in itself is all I need from any of you. heart As for mushy I guess I just cant help myselfgrin
PS I really dont want you all involved in the attack fest on the links I provided earlier I just want you to understand what went wrong and say I appreceate all of you who gave so much support on our mission.

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Sometimes its not about one person running a whole show that makes it work to its fullest its about "Team work" and "Love" that brings its unity into perfect balance. -anon-
BTF ADMINISTRATOR - admin
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I for one know how hard life can be and I am sorry I did not see this sooner. Gary and April I for one cannot even imagine what you are going through and never want to for that matter as I know I would never be able to be w/ out Jim ever....I am still uncertain about gloss as to play or not...but my most concern is with you both. I will tell you this...you both have a place in my heart just like all the rest here - we all love eachother no doubt and will continue to do so. But as for the both of you........................We do have a place for you both in our home

So just know if it comes down to it...If and when ----You do have a place to start over together..

Sometimes life throws you a curve ball. I guess you just gotta know when to move


Love Joheartangel

BTF NOVICE - member
40 posts

Hun,

i have been praying every night for you and gary and will keep doing so...keep your head up and everything will work out in the end.. i love you guy's and hope only the best for you..

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zz, very sorry to hear about all your troubles. i wish you the best and hope you believe that everything will work out in the long run.  i'm not on btf as much, but you brought a good bunch of people together who still remain good friends and are here for each other through good and bad.

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HotPauko
BTF REGULAR - member
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The paragraghs were getting smaller and smaller .... i hope i didn't miss any fine print ./// lolol :) jus kiddin,... April you and Gary are two strong peeps and I'm sure you will get through this,... if there is anything I can do , besides send lots of $$$ i dont have lol, lemme know :) I wish you both the best, its always been a pleasure spending time at clubspadeforum and BTF, I miss you all too and will frequent more often.

See you on the felt sis

bigkev

BTF REGULAR - member
176 posts

This is a test of the emergency life system.  This is only a test.  If life has truly failed, you would be told to seek comfort with your god. 
But for now, BTF will do until 2012.devil

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ok.. this is more for general comedy. You all involved, mentally, fill in the amount.  Please don't get all offended cuz I don't mean anything by it but to make things "lighter".

Gown=$xK
Gloss = $xxK
Animals = $xxK
Being a Grandfather... priceless

For everything else there is BTF angel

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awwwwwwwwww od....being a grandma is priceless and being here amongst you all is priceless also

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so sorry to hear about this zz, I whish you and your husband the best ;* 

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Wharrap
BTF NOVICE - member
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ZZ, I'm so sorry to hear this. I haven't been here for a long time due to certain circumstances, but it looks like everything is against you 2. I hope everything turns out well for you and that you get out of all the mess much better and stronger then before and you can be together.

I wish you all the luck, strength and love.

Grtz,
Maurice

BTF ADMINISTRATOR - founder
2909 posts

Thanks to all for your hugs "so to speak" heart

Seriously tho I am the kind of person that beleaves everything falls how it was designed to fall and I have learned with age to accept them as they are. I still go through my initial down time but we learn to rise above it and move on more easily with each year we mature,

With every chapter that closes a new one opens. smile

I am smiling and my heart smiles.Perserverence is key in life.

Hugs to all heart

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Sometimes its not about one person running a whole show that makes it work to its fullest its about "Team work" and "Love" that brings its unity into perfect balance. -anon-
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hun i wish for u a beautiful life.  And i know you have one with Gary. Take your convictions and stick with them hun.  You will get through lifes trials.  Love ya huggers. Nan

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